Wednesday, March 31, 2010

A Recent Realization

White people are not bound by your feeble "logic."

They cannot be expected to abide by the rules of common sense, nor can they be expected to avoid hypocrisy.

They are white. Thus they create their own rules, their own logic and their own morality.

You coloreds need to get with the program.



I'm taking a page from the book of another respected blogger, and quoting myself just from another source. The quote excerpted above is from a comment I left on another blog that discussed the cognitive dissonance of the Tea Party. But, after I read my words, I decided I wanted to write something more.

Wait, let me say something up front. White folks, if you're trying to do right, don't take this personally, nor assume that I'm condemning you just for your skin color. I wanted to get that out of the way because I know that conversations get derailed without it.

I could have just as easily made the quote up top in response to any amount of random ridiculousness I stumble across regularly on the web.

It could have been the story I read about the different reactions black teens and white teens received while staging a "mock" vandalism of a car. Or it could have been the story about an irate caller at C-Span who was tired of all the black people calling on the Republican, or "Whites Only," telephone line.

It would related to this excerpt I read where a former employee of Tiger Woods blamed Tiger's "black role models," namely Michael Jordan and Charles Barkley, for leading him astray. Or I could have said the same thing after reading comments from readers at the "Stuff White People Do" blog about their experiences with being mistaken for criminals while living their non-criminal lives.

It wouldn't matter where I said it because the truth of the comment stands alone.

Logic ain't real high on the list of white priorities when it comes to dealing with minorities, particularly black folks.

A friend of mine told me recently about a quote from Toni Morrison following the O.J. Simpson trial. He said that when Morrison compared the prosecution's description of O.J. to the public image of O.J. before his ex-wife's death, there was an extreme disconnect. In most white folks' eyes, O.J. went from the all-American great guy with few flaws to this demonic, sub-human animal with no good qualities.

Morrison, according to my friend, said that was only possible for a black person. Only a black person could go from being perfect, to then being perfectly irredeemable. She said that white people are able to accept totally contradictory ideas about black folks as true in a way they can never do with themselves. In my mind, she seemed to be saying that many white people don't bother with nuance or logic when they consider black folks.

Ain't that the truth.

I know some folks get tired of race talk, but I feel it necessary to point this out. When you consider many of the public and private opinions white people hold about minorities, particularly black folks, doesn't it strike you how many of them are not bound by logic, how many of them are rife with hypocrisy and how many of them directly contradict the professed moral code of those same white folks.

I'm constantly amazed at how people will set aside their values and their common sense when it comes to racial matter. Particularly since most racial matter are not life or death struggles for white folks, they are just exercises in minorities trying to get white folks to understand their pain and help us do something about it?

Why does this disconnect exist? Honestly, acknowledging the reality that so many minorities already know exists would not cause a fundamental shift in the way the world works. After all, just acknowledging the truth doesn't force people to act, that's an entirely different process. Acknowledging the truth just allows us to have an honest conversation using a shared set of facts.

But, it would seem that honest conversations are also low on the list. Oh, I'm sure there are some white folks who would complain that when they speak "honestly" they get attacked and disparaged. I can't disagree with that point. Then again, when your "honest" opinion is insulting and based on lies, folks have a tendency to get hot and bothered. Honesty does not bestow some sort of protection, in fact it's often an invitation to be attacked from what I can tell.

But what's the use of living in comfort if you're living a lie?








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16 comments:

LisaMJ said...

Yep!

Thordaddy said...

Lil man,

You believe in God and so you believe in Supremacy.

You also think racism is evil.

And racism is euphemism for white supremacy.

Meaning, you think WHITE supremacy is evil.

Now, because you believe in Supremacy and logic dictates that you then strive towards Supremacy, the evil of white supremacy is the WHITE part.

lil man, how do you explain this blanket animus against WHITE Americans?

Well, because you believe in Seperationism AS A BLACK LIBERATIONIST.

Now that's an assertion you could attempt to vigorously rebut.

But will you?

Prolly not...

macon d said...

When you consider many of the public and private opinions white people hold about minorities, particularly black folks, doesn't it strike you how many of them are not bound by logic, how many of them are rife with hypocrisy and how many of them directly contradict the professed moral code of those same white folks.

Yes, it does strike me. We're cowardly hypocrites who don't live up to our own moral standards when it comes to POC, especially black people. We put black people on the bottom and still keep them there. I'm still trying to figure out just why we still do that. Maybe there is a collective white (sub)conscious, with pathologies it still hasn't rooted out.

Mr. Noface said...

But what's the use of living in comfort if you're living a lie?

Why not live the lie, when it places you on top? Would you give up your kingdom even if it was based on a lie? I would like to think that I would, but I'm not sure.

Thordaddy said...

Macon D...

Why spray us with that digital spittle???
Talkin' in riddles,
Most whiteys look at jew...
N say, "He dun lost his skittles."

Blacks hate white supremacy,
Supremacy need not hate anything,
Cryin' racism is cryin' self-imposed inferiority,
N u layin' on duh laundry flo', like static-clang
Clangin' tuh memes
That putjew duh shame...

U look atta black boy who come inta ya frame???
HEEZ GOTTA LOOK AT JEW, c u first
N then claim u playin' racist game...

Go ahead macon, fall fo' it,
That's y u lame!!!

Thordaddy said...

Mr. Noface,

How do lies put one on top especially when truth is so readily avaible and a much better way to get there?

Big Man said...

Thor said:

"lil man, how do you explain this blanket animus against WHITE Americans?"

Thor, this is an assumption on your point.

I have been very, VERY clear about where my animus is directed.

So, until you can accurately relate what I think, then I'm guessing we don't have much to discuss.

Thordaddy said...

Lil man,

Your animus is directed towards white supremacy BUT YOU WORSHIP Supremacy...

So you don't hate supremacy, you hate the white folk that practice it...

Please explain where I've gone wrong in my assessment?

You can say very specific things to challenge my assertions.

You can say, "I don't worship Supremacy."

You can say, "I don't hate white supremacy."

You can say, "I just hate supremacists regardless of race."

WHAT WILL YOU SAY?

CNu said...

Now's a very good time to consider the move to Echo Big Man.

In addition to the standard author moderation controls, it's also got some commenter-mediated controls.

So f'zample, let's say you pick up a ruh-tarded troll from someplace else, you know how that go, who only makes sense to his phuggamuggin self - then - with no effort on your part - your other commenters can flag said troll's ridiculous textual flatulence as such, and after a set number of such flags, said troll will be the only one who can see his comments.

That isht strikes me hella comical. Cause the comments are there, but only their source can see them and wonder why it is that his ignorance is being completely ignored by others.

Thordaddy said...

CNu...

Why you always catching up? Why you battling somebody so ignant that you're trying to get'm off the digital playground. It's like Internet imitatin' life. Why you so afraid of my intimidation that you feel the need to protect lil man?

Oops...?

Found a lil soft spot in craig's heart. It's like big bruvva protectin' lil bruvva.

Claim it or shame it, craig...

I want to be an American in America!!!

CNu said...

Big Man,

I came across this shot straight to the heart of pseudo-scientific racism today. I would encourage you to read the entire comment thread because it was a veritable masterpiece of logical/rhetorical jiu-jutsu in which white-nerd preoccupation with Black folks was thrown on its pointy little head once and for all.

Racial-realist/"human biodiversity" (HBD) sites, (where thorpimple who can't maintain a blog of his own can be found worshipping at the feet of his intellectual superiors - that is of course whenever he's not clumsily and desperately attempting to poison discussion threads in the afrosphere with his solipsist chindribble} would crack me up if not for the fact that we are the subject of their obsessive daily enmity and invective.

The jiu-jutsu master devastated an entire gathering of thorpimple's superiors with graceful moves like this;

:-D Translation: you have no valid response. I'll take that as a win, thank you.

And calling you a nerd is not invective. It's just what you are. It explains why you do what you do. You are an advocate for your people, white nerds, much like Sharpton is an advocate for American blacks. Pointing out the demographic you are a part of and advocate for is not the same as insulting you. You fancy yourself a civil rights leader and advocate for your fellow white nerds.

And don't deny you're a nerd. You are. You have a lot to be ashamed of, particular your poor attempts at logic and intellectual inconsistencies, but don't be ashamed of being a nerd. There are plenty of decent ones. If anything I'm insulting nerds by including you as one


Are we to conclude that thorpimple is merely "advocating for his people"?

Begs the question what do his peckerwood peasant people have to do with any of us?

Jiu-jutsu master continued;

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Is this parody? The incredible self-importance, the visions of martrydom and messianic mission! Too hilarious to be true, especially the part about OneSTD being intelligent! Good stuff Cornelius.

Cornelius, dude, HBD is a venue for frustrated white nerds to commiserate while trying to prop up their self esteem for their lives not adding up to the great destiny they feel they deserved due to their so called great intelligence. Stop trying to build it up into some grand messianic mission. It's nerds whose lives didn't add up to what they wanted and need both excuses, scapegoating and a support group grounded in scientific sophistry to cope with that.

Every group deserves their academic excuse-making and support groups. That's why it doesn't bug me when blacks do ethnic studies and white nerds do HBD, which in principle is exactly the same concept for white nerds (don't fool yourself, you have no moral high ground, it is the exact same thing).


imoho - the single-handed beatdown administered at that HBD site puts the movable feast (gum stuck on your shoe) of thorpimple's peckerwood-peasant ranting about "Americans" and "radical autonomy" at afrosphere sites into its proper perspective....,

Thordaddy said...

Craig,

Two things you can be sure of is that HBD is an atheist pursuit and I'm not atheist and no one has ever called me a nerd.

Other than that the question as to WHY white supremacy is seen as evil by lil man and yourself when both of you are black supremacists (you worship supremacy as black men) remains unanswered?

Thordaddy said...

Hey Craig,

Let's say you walk into a high class retail joint and racial instinct has you look at the sales clerk upon entering and you see him staring at you.

You call this SWB... Shopping while black... This is the stuff of institutional racism.

But check the replay...

YOU LOOK at him FIRST and SEE him looking at you.

The best you can say is that you both looked simultaneously.

The more honest assessment is that you looked FIRST.

Because what you could never conclude is that the sales clerk looked AT YOU first. That's just your conceit.

You simply assume it and use this incident as proof of racism.

In reality, you are simply maximizing through minimizing. The goal is to be not looked upon as you enter high class joints and to not have others look at you. You maximize your autonomy by minimizing the autonomy of white people.

CNu said...

bears repeating...,

White people are not bound by your feeble "logic."

They cannot be expected to abide by the rules of common sense, nor can they be expected to avoid hypocrisy.

They are white. Thus they create their own rules, their own logic and their own morality.

You coloreds need to get with the program.

Thordaddy said...

Craig,

Really...? That's all you have? Dude uses "white man's logic" and white man's logic is really illogic?

Like I said, your hatred for white supremacy isn't a hatred of the supremacy but a hatred of the white people who strive for Supremacy.

Fact is Craig, you're a supremacist. You won't deny this assertion just like you won't claim to be an America and claim to have a desire to live in America.

They call this the radically autonomous essence.

Big Man said...

Nulan

Thanks for the links, particularly the ones associated with Joe. Like I said, it's amazing how folks contort their logic and morality on demand.

Thor

Don't worry, I'm not going to ban you. Like I told you before, your comments serve a purpose. As DV often says, "If you didn't exist, I'd have to create you."


You don't have to worry that CNu is going to convince me to ban you as long as you do not post ridiculously long rants or "verses."

Other than that, you're straight.

Raving Black Lunatic