tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post7963580571098822329..comments2023-10-31T06:20:45.622-05:00Comments on Raving Black Lunatic: Just Move OnBig Manhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02510881583909431416noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-90561408353330421102010-07-07T11:08:02.143-05:002010-07-07T11:08:02.143-05:00Nope, you go home and have hot sweaty sex!
lol..,...<i>Nope, you go home and have hot sweaty sex!</i><br /><br />lol..,<br /><br />that only happens before you get married.<br /><br />As for the rest, the institutional defense of the monolithic Black church was hella weak on this thread.<br /><br />Anecdotes DO NOT comprise data, and history and the current state of po Black folk culturally, politically, educationally, and spiritually DO NOT speak well for and institutional force any further evolved than what Carter G. denigrated 77 years ago.<br /><br />The Civil Rights Movement witnessed the zenith of the Black Church as a cultural influence in the lives of Black Americans. Since that period, with the exodus of the best and brightest out of the pulpits due to expanded opportunities, overall, the Black church has devolved into an extremely retrograde and parasitic force in Black American life.CNuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14152640304402402884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-3010618832572033712010-07-07T10:54:32.616-05:002010-07-07T10:54:32.616-05:00I didn't assume anything.
I pointed to what y...I didn't assume anything.<br /><br />I pointed to what you wrote.<br /><br />As for the idea that married people shouldn't comment on a commentary about where to find a suitable partner, well the fact that you would believe that just proves my earlier point about your advice.<br /><br />If I'm married, and a churchgoing man who was a churchgoing man before I met my wife, and almost all of my friends are churchgoing men who were churchgoing men before they met their wives, then doesn't that invalidate the point that women looking for men in church are wasting their time?<br /><br />And, it still doesn't address the fact that the various types of losers you described hanging out at church can be found at any locale where black men congregate, or rather where men congregate.<br /><br />Furthermore, your own comments in your comments section along with on the rest of your blog are where I got my ideas about how you feel about marriage, men, religion and God. I didn't attack you, I just pointed out what you believed and told people to consider those beliefs when reading your commentary.<br /><br />Falsing claiming you've been attacked is a weak tactic.Big Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02510881583909431416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-73961488043426017342010-07-05T22:53:29.352-05:002010-07-05T22:53:29.352-05:00Also, this article is not directed towards married...Also, this article is not directed towards married people. So all those holding their spouse up as an example of how great their life is are missing the point. YOU ARE NOT SINGLE. You are not in church being told to wait on a man to come. You are not in church on your knees lonely and hungering for love. Nope, you go home and have hot sweaty sex! So really, the thoughts, opinions and feelings of married men and women on this topic do not count.Deborrah Cooperhttp://survivingdating.com/?p=814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-63028193633173394592010-07-05T22:48:18.698-05:002010-07-05T22:48:18.698-05:00Black folks on this site ASSume a lot without know...Black folks on this site ASSume a lot without knowing me.<br /><br />First of all I have been very happily married. My husband died some years ago in an auto accident. I have not remarried due to the fact that men I've come across are not worth me spending more than a few dates with, let alone my entire life.<br /><br />Secondly, attacking me because you don't like what I say is the typical tactic of a loser in an argument. You have nothing solid to controvert the facts and statements in the argument and rather than face the fact that you are living a lie, you attempt to discredit and denigate me. LOLOL! Sorry, I've seen that tactic 10,000 times and it never works people.<br /><br />Lastly, I will be discussing this issue on my talk show on Saturday 7/10/2010. If you want to check out the conversation log onto http://www.blogtalkradio.com/askheartbeat.Deborrah Cooperhttp://survivingdating.com/?p=814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-13815733968358478042010-06-24T15:15:48.095-05:002010-06-24T15:15:48.095-05:00There's no confusion about this subject matter...There's no confusion about this subject matter whatsoever, except among men unwilling to objectively look at the facts of the matter. <br /><br />The subject is the weakness, uselessness, and predatory nature of the ersatz religious enclaves passing themselves off as the modern Black "church".<br /><br />The problems and failings of the church no more eliminate finding a quality man in one, than say, the problems in a ramshackle leaky shotgun shack preclude you from finding a quality carpenter/craftsman living in the same.<br /><br />sheeeeiiiiitttt......,<br /><br />Even crazy<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaGbBtLfVVk&feature=player_embedded" rel="nofollow"> James Manning's right</a> twice a day when it comes to the so-called Black "church".<br /><br /><b>ATLAH!!!</b>CNuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14152640304402402884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-77426433894735108502010-06-24T14:22:55.333-05:002010-06-24T14:22:55.333-05:00These comments got off the subject a long time ago...These comments got off the subject a long time ago. Everyone is entitled to their opinions on whatever subject, including the value of religion or church in the Black community. The original point what this lady's opinion wall poorly-structured, not founded in empirical data, and incredibly slanted to her personal leanings. It's insane for any person to profess expert status on not one but two subjects on which they have no personal knowledge.T.A.N. Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03959898258139383708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-61195343365566030782010-06-24T14:16:44.583-05:002010-06-24T14:16:44.583-05:00And, while I will admit that they churches you des...<i>And, while I will admit that they churches you describe are far too prevalent, I don't know if they are grounds for an indictment of the entire black church. </i><br /><br />KIT tied down <a href="http://keepittrill.blogspot.com/2010/06/boondocks-pacts-with-racism-sistas-as.html" rel="nofollow">any remaining loose ends</a>.<br /><br /><i>Matter of fact, I will even note that there are some churches with "First ladies" who also have after school tutoring, AIDS testing and outreach and a host of other public service arms.</i><br /><br />yeah boi-eee...., them jokers was scuffling to pick up some faith-based initiative $$$ there for half a hot minute.....,CNuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14152640304402402884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-6584968403553300512010-06-24T14:07:56.006-05:002010-06-24T14:07:56.006-05:00I'm glad you added that "occasionally.&qu...I'm glad you added that "occasionally."<br /><br />Nah, I was serious. I've seen you say you're from K.C., seen you say your Oriental Orthodox and seen you say you do work with at-risk kids. I remember somebody describing you as resembling the cat in that photo, so I thought that might be a pic of you at one of your churches events.<br /><br />And, while I will admit that they churches you describe are far too prevalent, I don't know if they are grounds for an indictment of the entire black church. Matter of fact, I will even note that there are some churches with "First ladies" who also have after school tutoring, AIDS testing and outreach and a host of other public service arms. I'm not going to pretend it's the majority of them, but I think it's wrong to use such broad generalizations.<br /><br />But, if you agree with homegirl, I doubt I'm gonna change your mind. So it's cool.Big Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02510881583909431416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-62895227886397473342010-06-24T13:04:54.466-05:002010-06-24T13:04:54.466-05:00rotflmbao...,
one deevee moment deserves another....rotflmbao...,<br /><br />one deevee moment deserves another.<br /><br />show me a church as humble, dedicated, and known for its good works and service as St. Marys.<br /><br />_________________?<br /><br />bonus points if you can link a single instance that includes a "First Lady".....,<br /><br />in my occasionally humble experience, Carter G. ain't never lied yet.CNuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14152640304402402884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-78605180233662224852010-06-24T11:59:33.902-05:002010-06-24T11:59:33.902-05:00All right, I understand your point.
And is that y...All right, I understand your point.<br /><br />And is that you in the white shirt with the glasses marching? Just wondering.Big Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02510881583909431416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-28793743103952021672010-06-24T11:10:39.547-05:002010-06-24T11:10:39.547-05:00I got no problem with church whatsoever Big Man.
...I got no problem <a href="http://www.stmaryofegypt.net/" rel="nofollow">with church</a> whatsoever Big Man. <br /><br />It's just that there are a whole lot of pretenders in ad hoc and pretend organizations calling themselves leaders (many even with "First Lady's") and calling the ignorant, sinful, hot mess that they perpetrate church.<br /><br />Church is identifiable by its <a href="http://www.pitch.com/2009-12-24/news/reconciliation-services-david-altschul-trying-to-save-troost/" rel="nofollow">servant leadership and their tangible works</a>.<br /><br />Everything else is just superstition and exploitation of the same.CNuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14152640304402402884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-35972023889279686772010-06-24T10:09:31.365-05:002010-06-24T10:09:31.365-05:00That last comment was funny, I must admit.
I find...That last comment was funny, I must admit.<br /><br />I find that your characterizations of the church, and your idea about one must do to be a member of a church don't match with my own experiences. It's interesting.<br /><br />I'm not saying I haven't been to churches that fit your description, I'm saying that the simplest solution, which me and my family often utilized, was to find another church that suits your needs. I know many black folks believe in staying at the same church no matter what, but I wasn't raised like that. If the church got out of line, then we moved on.<br /><br />Also, I agree with you on the aspirations of the church. However, I would argue that you can say the same for each believer in Christ. We all are supposed to aspire to something more and strive to make our lives more closely resemble Christ's. Yet, because of our humanity, we will fail time and time again at this mission, although hopefully we will show progress. I would say the same for a church.<br /><br />There will be failings in a church. The hope is that these failings are not all that the church has to offer, and that the church is striving towards a higher calling. Expecting my church to be perfect would be like expecting my marriage to be perfect. <br /><br />But, I do appreciate you taking the time to explain why you and many cats like you have such a problem with church. It's interesting that so many cats see it as a "punking." I never knew that.Big Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02510881583909431416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-59856136955610885072010-06-23T20:48:54.061-05:002010-06-23T20:48:54.061-05:00Bottom line, there is not a single place in the wo...<i>Bottom line, there is not a single place in the world where you can meet men that is not going to have bad apples. I have not seen a compelling argument that chuch is worse than the bar, club, poetry reading or park.</i><br /><br />Big Man, the level of "pretending" one might expect to encounter at a bar, club, slam or park is of an entirely other order than the level of pretending one is liable to encounter in a church.<br /><br /><i>I've just seen arguments about the problems of the church. I don't see how those problems eliminate church as a viable option for finding a quality man.</i><br /><br />The problems and failings of the church no more eliminate finding a quality man in one, than say, the problems in a ramshackle leaky shotgun shack preclude you from finding a quality carpenter/craftsman living in the same.CNuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14152640304402402884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-82400479234812652392010-06-23T20:43:01.326-05:002010-06-23T20:43:01.326-05:00So you're saying you agree with this women'...<i>So you're saying you agree with this women's thesis that if black women are looking for a quality mate, they most certainly should not look in church?</i><br /><br />Correct.<br /><br /><i>And you agree that church is the main reason why black women cannot find a mate?</i><br /><br />I would agree that Black men willing to subordinate themselves to the leadership of an obviously failed institution - either sincerely or for the sake of appearances, or even just to go-along to get-along - is probably not going to be solid husband-father-leader material.<br /><br /><i>Because I don't anybody on this thread would disagree with the notion that their are massive failings in the black church and that those failings have existed for quite some time. </i><br /><br />and are in no risk of being systemically remediated by strong husband-father-leader men unwilling to settle for a failed institution.<br /><br /><i>It's a human organization with all the failings of most human organizations despite its stated purpose.</i><br /><br />stop..., the church is supposed to exemplify everything to which one might aspire. failing this, it has failed its purpose altogether and devolved into something ersatz and irreligious....,CNuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14152640304402402884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-78616759887422250432010-06-23T15:36:39.986-05:002010-06-23T15:36:39.986-05:00Also, here in my city, many of your mega churches ...Also, here in my city, many of your mega churches are building schools, day-care centers and the like. It's usually the smaller churches that don't branch out like that, but the large ones are doing that and even building apartment complexes.<br /><br />Finally, I don't buy that catholic school is better than public school, at least not where I live. Lol.Big Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02510881583909431416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-37166600407902452202010-06-23T15:34:41.634-05:002010-06-23T15:34:41.634-05:00CNu
I have no beef with what Cobb wrote. Honestly...CNu<br /><br />I have no beef with what Cobb wrote. Honestly, I do not.<br /><br />I agree on what the primary focus of churches should be. I agree with the anger towards prosperity ministeries and preachers. I agree that churches could do WAY more social activism under the guise of Chrisitanity. I agree that ministers were often defacto overseers for slavemasters.<br /><br />But, I'm unclear what that has to do with the topic of finding a man at church?<br /><br />Moreover, I disagree with the notion that "black men don't church."<br /><br />Are there many men who don't go to church, sure. But, there are also plenty of cats who see church as central to their identity, I'm friends with many of them and have been since they were running the streets.<br /><br />If cats have a problem tithing or giving offerings, they need to first recognize why they give that money in the first place, and they then need to join a church where they don't feel like their money is being misused. It's that simple.<br /><br />Most folks gravitate to these mega-churces because they are filling a need. They are telling folks want they want to hear, and only charging them a voluntary fee to do it.<br /><br />Bottom line, there is not a single place in the world where you can meet men that is not going to have bad apples. I have not seen a compelling argument that chuch is worse than the bar, club, poetry reading or park.<br /><br />I've just seen arguments about the problems of the church. I don't see how those problems eliminate church as a viable option for finding a quality man.Big Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02510881583909431416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-70233476800369960172010-06-23T14:40:14.940-05:002010-06-23T14:40:14.940-05:00continued;
Today we still have a legacy of overre...continued;<br /><br />Today we still have a legacy of overreaching black ministers doing dirty work that is counter to the well-being of their 'constituents', one need look no further than Al Sharpton, former FBI informant.<br /><br />The founders of Kwanzaa, as well as a great number of black intellectuals who have formed the institutions of Afro-American studies on our nation's campuses, understood that there needed to be multiple and diverse institutional sources of empowerment for and by African America. And they have succeeded.<br /><br />I'm sure there are plenty of black Christians who believe that no institution outside of the black Church should have primary influence of the culture, politics and social conventions of African Americans. It's too late for that, and African America has voted with its feet. That Old Time Religion ain't good enough. While some have made foolish use of this liberty, and others have done absolutely nothing, on the whole African America is better off having a diversity of institutions upon which they can depend.<br /><br />There is nothing so sad and sorry as a Baptist trying to out-Christian a Catholic, and nothing speaks to the indignation over Kwanzaa so much as the argument against Karenga. I could spend a month of Sundays categorizing defrocked priests and jackleg ministries. How many congregants would like to hear that God doesn't hear your prayers if they come from a church whose minister has broken the law?<br /><br />But let us consider what parts of Black History these fundamentalists would have us discard. The Black Arts Movement. What part did the Negro Church play in it?<br /><br />African American success is very much like other immigrant groups' success although you don't hear it said very often. We start in ethnic enclaves, and forbidden from mainstreaming we overbuild and over-depend on those enclaves. Doubting the permanence of cross-over, many remain tied to their provincial ways. Sometimes it takes generations but eventually and inevitably the old ways give way to new ways. There was a time not long ago whenI read Ebony Magazine's 100 Most Influetial Blacks, and men and women who led fraternities like the Elks and the Prince Hall Masons were top dogs. Could we have ever imagined that blacks would run Sears, American Express and Time?<br /><br />We are accepted and involved in a broader variety of institutions in America. Not all of us are moving at the same speed but the trend is forward. Consequently the old Church will become more a center of pure spiritual doings and much less in political and other doings. This is an opportunity for the Black Church to re-focus and re-energize its primary purpose. I hope it does so. But what we know about people in power is that they want most to hold on to that power. So we know that ministers will be sorely tempted to be more than spiritual guides. Every church has a commitment to its community, and communities vary. But on the whole we will see less political production from churches and more mainstreaming by black communities.<br /><br />If you ask me what today's black church ought to be doing more than anything, the answer is simple. Build schools. There is nothing so abominally embarrassing as a mega-interdenominational (maximal market share, minimal discipline) with thousands of members and a worship-dome. Because just up the street is a modest Catholic church with a school that's superior to public school. On that note, I find the greatest fault. We've been here hundreds of years, how many of our schools are self-funded? Now tell me what you're marching for?CNuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14152640304402402884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-12316771730515218902010-06-23T14:39:57.826-05:002010-06-23T14:39:57.826-05:00I got two words for anything calling itself a chur...I got two words for anything calling itself a church that wants to be relevant to current and future Black men.<br /><br />BUILD SCHOOLS!!!!<br /><br />everything else is ignorant and superstitious conversation......,<br /><br />Cobb's GOAT essay;<br /><br /><a href="http://cobb.typepad.com/cobb/2006/09/conjugate_the_v.html" rel="nofollow">The Broken Negro Church Monopoly</a><br />By the mid 1960s, the Negro Church was the primary source of political activism before the dawning of the black power movement. As anyone who has understood the study of racism in American Christianity (especially those informed by Rev. Fred Price) knows, there was direct complicity in racist suppression of the power of black churches by most of the major protestant hierarchs. In other words, when it came to black liberation, too many Negro preachers were bought off. Some even believed in and preached the Curse of Ham as a biblical reason blacks should not press for advancement in American society. The Nation of Islam could not have been formed if this were not self-evident to the common man.<br /><br />But specifically those who would be leaders into a new political and cultural reality for African Americans, the leaders of the Black Power, Black Arts & Black Consciousness movements where denied access to the Negro Church and also demonized from the pulpit.CNuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14152640304402402884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-48181272867212427062010-06-23T14:32:39.159-05:002010-06-23T14:32:39.159-05:00Then, there was The Current and Future Black Churc...Then, there was <a href="http://cobb.typepad.com/cobb/2007/02/the_current_and.html" rel="nofollow">The Current and Future Black Church</a>....,CNuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14152640304402402884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-35742132666725028742010-06-23T14:25:29.746-05:002010-06-23T14:25:29.746-05:00Big Man,
We took up this topic several years ago ...Big Man,<br /><br />We took up this topic several years ago at Cobb - <a href="http://cobb.typepad.com/cobb/2006/09/why_black_men_d.html" rel="nofollow">Why Black Men Don't Church</a>:<br /><br />I'll repeat now what I told the assemblage back then;<br /><br /><i>I understand that I owe something to my less fortunate brothers, but I'll be damned (I guess so) before I give it to a minister who drives a better car than me. I don't mind supporting ministries, but I've got my priorities.</i><br /><br />BINGO!!!<br /><br />No sane, competent black man is about to subordinate himself to a part-way pimp. It's really just that simple.<br /><br />No politics.<br /><br />No program.<br /><br />No organization.<br /><br />Nothing remotely approaching the miraculous.<br /><br />wtf good is the minister and the so-called black ministry? Back in the day, the church afforded some of the best trained, best educated minds and mouths and the economic autonomy to lead in useful ways. Nowadays, that is no longer the case and the talent pool that formerly might have sought out a "calling" has instead sought out and been sought by corporate America.<br /><br />It's nearly identical to pedagogy. The best trained, best educated minds of old have sought greener and more upstanding pastures elsewhere, leaving a dregs that is fundamentally incapable and unworthy of leading competent black men.CNuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14152640304402402884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-39007535607405396872010-06-23T14:24:25.538-05:002010-06-23T14:24:25.538-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.CNuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14152640304402402884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-37761276126262194182010-06-23T10:51:53.852-05:002010-06-23T10:51:53.852-05:00Well as I say on my own blog don't let a bald ...Well as I say on my own blog don't let a bald man tell you how to grow hair. In this case the fact that the author has church issues colors what she says. Fact is for most folks to not only get married but stay married requires folks to be evenly yoked and religion/spitituality is one of those areas. <br /><br />A dear friend of mine is dealing with this now, she is a devout Christian falls in love with a man who is an atheiest and now she wants marriage and the while enchilada. He says no. Talk about a real dilemma. My girl took the advice this author suggests in that she ended up with a white boy but now where is her future? <br /><br />There is a reason that so many sistas do look in the church. Churches like anything can be good or bad but to diss the whole institution is just wrong.blackgirlinmainehttp://blackgirlinmaine.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-64739537367159225382010-06-23T09:31:15.143-05:002010-06-23T09:31:15.143-05:00Cnu
So you're saying you agree with this wome...Cnu<br /><br />So you're saying you agree with this women's thesis that if black women are looking for a quality mate, they most certainly should not look in church?<br /><br />And you agree that church is the main reason why black women cannot find a mate?<br /><br />Because I don't anybody on this thread would disagree with the notion that their are massive failings in the black church and that those failings have existed for quite some time. It's a human organization with all the failings of most human organizations despite its stated purpose.<br /><br />My problem is with the argument that bars, pool halls and clubs are better places to meet quality men than church. My problem is the contention that church is what's keeping black women single. My problem is with a woman who claims to never go to church and to have no experience with church making the sort of authoratative statements she made. Bottom line, it's beyond ridiculous to admit to having no practical experience with a topic and then turning aroudn and pretending to be an expert on said topic.<br /><br />I remember the chapter on service and leadership. I agreed with a lot in that chapter, still do. But, I don't think Woodson's critques, which were driven by scholarship and personal experience, should ever, EVER be compared to what this woman has written. Do you?<br /><br />On Aaron McGruder, I think that it's quite easy to shoot fish in a barrel. Hypocrisy is a problem in many black churches. Since those churches are composed of human beings, I would be shocked if it wasn't. <br /><br />No matter he professed belief systems of human beings, at their core they are still human beings with the same foibles and failings. I'm also surprised at how many folks don't realize this simple fact, and seemed shocked when they are exposed to it.Big Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02510881583909431416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-3614741010766961262010-06-23T08:44:24.715-05:002010-06-23T08:44:24.715-05:00I only just now read the article Big Man, and Debo...I only just now read the article Big Man, and Deborah Cooper didn't lie.<br /><br /><a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jun/22/entertainment/la-et-boondocks-20100622" rel="nofollow">Aaron McGruder</a> didn't lie either, and touched on some of the same issues.<br /><br />Carter G. Woodson certainly didn't lie when he covered these bases in the chapter in Miseducation titled, The Need for Service Rather than Leadership.<br /><br />It's kind of funny reading the vehemence of the apologetics for the contemporary Black church on this thread, in light of the abject paucity of accomplishments same said church collectively has to show for serving the needs of the impoverished, unmarried, and struggling flocks on which it preys....,CNuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14152640304402402884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-69716080266025210162010-06-22T21:04:56.403-05:002010-06-22T21:04:56.403-05:00T.A.N. like Bigman said she has been doing intervi...T.A.N. like Bigman said she has been doing interviews. Thats the scary part about it....that people would actually give her an outlet to be heard.<br /><br />Yet we can't get some of these brothas and sistas who are trying to uplift the community any outlet to be heard. <br /><br />Its just a damn shame I tell you a damn shame.Originnoreply@blogger.com