tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post7782162664305347054..comments2023-10-31T06:20:45.622-05:00Comments on Raving Black Lunatic: What Is That?Big Manhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02510881583909431416noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-21081422267628053422009-11-01T10:26:52.329-06:002009-11-01T10:26:52.329-06:00BM, I think that you know that in my day job I wor...BM, I think that you know that in my day job I work with staff who provide youth employment training. Since it is basically my job to get youth to buy into employment dress culture, I have a lot of opinions on this. <br /><br />Generally those agencies that are successful at getting youth to "buy-in" to employment culture do so because the process is judgment-free. The assumption is that youth culture is to be fully respected and there is nothing inherently "superior" about attire in work culture. I mean, when you get right down to it, something like a "tie" is a ridiculous piece of cloth that serves absolutely no useful function. It exists only because enough white men thought it fashionable enough once upon a time to create an entire work culture crossing multiple continents. I suspect if those same men favored really tight jeans instead of dress slacks, and today's youth wore purposeless pieces of cloth around their necks, then ties themselves would be derided today as youth fashion nonsense.<br /><br />Once teens no longer feel that their norms/values are not being disrespected, then the "code-switching" process becomes 100 times easier. The tie is put on solely to help one's career, and after 5pm -- "do as you please". Tight pants, baggy pants, whatever<br /><br />So I think this similar "when in Rome" discussion also applies to church. Now I'm guessing that the kid with the tight pants wouldn't wear those pants on the basketball court (assuming he likes bball), so I assume that he already knows about "time and place". I think that there is still a way to promote an appropriate change in attire while staying completely judgment free.<br /><br />I guess I'm saying that there is nothing wrong with pulling the young man or scantily dressed woman aside (probably better left to another woman), if it is based on the right reasons. I know that I am certainly thankful years later that adults pulled me aside when I was young. Hell, I didn't even know how to tie a tie until i was 24!<br /><br />It's all in the delivery. <br /><br />As far as our personal biases go, I don't think that we have really have to 'resist the impulse', but just not impose them. I mean, I find lip rings to be absolutely hideous (particularly the horseshoe variety!) and 10 years of soul-searching, meditation, and yoga will not change that. The challenge, as you said, is not imposing that belief system. (unless motivated for purely practical reasons) <br /><br />BTW, sorry if my last couple of posts come too didactic, it is just that your last couple of articles are hitting home to the instructor in me.MODIhttp://sportsonmymind.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-51493487240801653642009-10-29T10:40:56.064-05:002009-10-29T10:40:56.064-05:00TAN
True that on Young Turk. We might not have wor...TAN<br />True that on Young Turk. We might not have worn what he wore to church, but we weren't scandalized that he had it on. Good point.<br />I agree that it's a personal bias against tight pants in general that colors my thoughts on them in church.<br /><br />KIT<br /><br />I'm glad that amused you.Big Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02510881583909431416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-37266761451591055292009-10-28T21:37:31.785-05:002009-10-28T21:37:31.785-05:00"Marriage has shown me the depths of my stupi...<i>"Marriage has shown me the depths of my stupidity."</i><br /><br />*chuckles*Kit (Keep It Trill)https://www.blogger.com/profile/03027769872237001801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-25012115564266451562009-10-28T18:42:16.795-05:002009-10-28T18:42:16.795-05:00I think the eternal analysis you're undergoing...I think the eternal analysis you're undergoing when critiquing others is good. As opposed to being motivated by the selfish desire to show someone you are right and they are wrong (rarely an absolute truth), it's good to be motivated by a desire to improve another personal development. But you can only get to that point by analyzing/secong-guessing your motives and the proper approach to the issue given the intend audience and desired effect. <br /><br />On the tight pants thing--that's what the kids are doing these days, you're just against tight pants on men, generally. It has nothing to do with the setting. I remember a young Tab Virgil walking the aisle in an oversized jungle camo suit, with complimentary piece and chain back in our college years. I think we were more shocked to see him than to see his attire.T.A.N. Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03959898258139383708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-81030072950379168502009-10-28T18:40:49.918-05:002009-10-28T18:40:49.918-05:00Later on in service I gave a side-eye to a young l...Later on in service I gave a side-eye to a young lady rocking a sundress that showed a lot of thigh and cleavage. (Big Man)<br /><br />LOL, I'm sure you did. ;)Tit for Tathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09454132514796693591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-11278511007927646822009-10-28T17:05:05.253-05:002009-10-28T17:05:05.253-05:00We're having discussions about proper attire a...We're having discussions about proper attire at my church, and we've been encouraged to expand our thinking.Big Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02510881583909431416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-51561731300891987082009-10-28T16:50:07.049-05:002009-10-28T16:50:07.049-05:00Yikes! Just because you're trying not to judg...Yikes! Just because you're trying not to judge doesn't mean you have to approve of what others are doing.<br /><br />I think the kid with the jeans was being disrespectful of the church and should have gotten a talking to about his attire.<br /><br />The woman, wellllllll, sounds just fine to me! hah! /sexistDarth Whiteynoreply@blogger.com