tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post6330833337947640528..comments2023-10-31T06:20:45.622-05:00Comments on Raving Black Lunatic: While We Were CelebratingBig Manhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02510881583909431416noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-4281627956930924382008-11-11T07:22:00.000-06:002008-11-11T07:22:00.000-06:00Niggers ain't shit, but hos and dicks.Niggers ain't shit, but hos and dicks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-4107815469581128382008-11-10T15:54:00.000-06:002008-11-10T15:54:00.000-06:00Yeah, Lisa. I think that's key myself. I mean, it'...Yeah, Lisa. I think that's key myself. I mean, it's not like Jesus condoned prostitution, gambling, etc. yet those are the people he spent a lot of time with, and persecution definitely wasn't on his agendaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-8541525237539040342008-11-10T14:15:00.001-06:002008-11-10T14:15:00.001-06:00Hello there!I really don't think that the Black Ch...Hello there!<BR/><BR/>I really don't think that the Black Church is going to change its stance regarding homosexuality...but I still believe that condoning discrimination in ANY form is not Christian and must be addressed.<BR/><BR/>Peace, blessings and DUNAMIS!<BR/>LisaLISA VAZQUEZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13583559303233985031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-53317414718875919922008-11-10T14:15:00.000-06:002008-11-10T14:15:00.000-06:00Big man is a nigger, londondiva is a nigger and mc...Big man is a nigger, londondiva is a nigger and mcbias is a nigger wannabe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-2102887351175317182008-11-10T13:24:00.000-06:002008-11-10T13:24:00.000-06:00I was trying to avoid saying this.But, please do n...I was trying to avoid saying this.<BR/><BR/>But, please do not feed the troll. <BR/><BR/>That only makes them larger.<BR/><BR/>If "proud homosexual" likes to throw around the word nigger on black blogs, so be it.<BR/><BR/>Doesn't really bother me, and y'all should let it bother you. If things get too bad, I'll go ahead and erase the comments, but I would prefer not to do that.<BR/><BR/>Also, MCBias is white.Big Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02510881583909431416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-89149167875878488992008-11-10T12:03:00.000-06:002008-11-10T12:03:00.000-06:00Your racist comments like I told you will never ma...Your racist comments like I told you will never make it onto my blog again. R-E-J-E-C-T-E-D [A term I'm sure you're familiar with] And posting on somebody elses blog isn't going to rile me or them either. <BR/><BR/>**spending all day on black based blogs**<BR/><BR/>WTF<BR/><BR/>You've been on mine since 13:00 to 17:30 GMT just saying the same damn word over and over. <BR/><BR/>LondonDiva's a Nigger...boo hoo *rolls eyes*Adminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12198337156060712847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-42966168674940998572008-11-10T11:47:00.000-06:002008-11-10T11:47:00.000-06:00MCBias, you have to be the dumbest fucking nigger ...MCBias, you have to be the dumbest fucking nigger I've ever come across in my life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-79630247969840788092008-11-10T11:44:00.000-06:002008-11-10T11:44:00.000-06:00You are a nigger though, londondiva.You are a nigger though, londondiva.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-67050987214929086602008-11-10T09:29:00.000-06:002008-11-10T09:29:00.000-06:00So many Anons, it gets hard to keep track of 'em s...So many Anons, it gets hard to keep track of 'em sometimes.<BR/><BR/>I mean, he couldn't have just given himself the handle "proud homosexual?" Oh, yeah, he was too busy blaming the blacks who voted against the measure instead of the many, many more white folks, Asian and Hispanics together who did.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-15415604059704286602008-11-10T08:56:00.000-06:002008-11-10T08:56:00.000-06:00And that's probably from the same Anon that's been...And that's probably from the same Anon that's been calling me a nigger on my own blog too.Adminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12198337156060712847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-3936349727654687342008-11-10T08:47:00.000-06:002008-11-10T08:47:00.000-06:00If by 'strange relationship' you mean completely h...If by 'strange relationship' you mean completely homophobic, totally predujiced and extremely hypocritical, then yes you're right, it is a strange relationship.<BR/><BR/>Infact, go fuck yourselves you fucking niggers.<BR/><BR/>From a proud homosexual.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-92144648924872131082008-11-09T17:57:00.000-06:002008-11-09T17:57:00.000-06:00I'm glad you wrote this. It is strange how blacks...I'm glad you wrote this. It is strange how blacks don't see some of the similarities. <BR/><BR/>One time I was talking to a friend who is very homophobic. He was going of about how gays were ok but blah blah blah ( I always tune out buts when people are talking about civil rights, because really there are NO buts to civil rights.) He then finally got it he said wait do you know HOW MUCH I WOULD TRIP if I heard a white person aay the same about a black person. <BR/><BR/>I was like exactly. We as minorities can never forget our struggle. If we do we will never truly advance. <BR/><BR/>Prop 8 and the role our community played in it really saddens me. It is not the way I wanted to see the Obama ticket split in California. <BR/><BR/>Great Post. <BR/><BR/>-OGOG, The Original Glamazonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17041450250560458185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-91203262413542279082008-11-08T11:25:00.000-06:002008-11-08T11:25:00.000-06:00Big Man, your statement was profound: "...if I've ...Big Man, your statement was profound: <I>"...if I've learned one thing, it's that the biggest threats to my marriage are me and my wife."</I> <BR/><BR/>Likewise, the rest of your post moved me. I began to write a comment here this morning, but it was so long that I wrote a post. I believe that the more of us questioning this hypocrisy, the better. Drop by when you get time and read what I wrote. I quoted you in it too.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://keepittrill.blogspot.com/2008/11/prop-8-when-yes-we-can-said-no-you-cant.html" REL="nofollow">When The Yes We Can Crowd Said No You Can't</A>Kit (Keep It Trill)https://www.blogger.com/profile/03027769872237001801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-17993391526922928332008-11-08T09:05:00.000-06:002008-11-08T09:05:00.000-06:00Christina,Thank you for sharing your actual life e...Christina,<BR/>Thank you for sharing your actual life experience on this. It most truly reflects my own, albeit through people I've loved and not my own personal journey.<BR/><BR/>I counsel my children that sexuality is far more fluid and mysterious than we as a society seem ready to acknowledge. That what might attract them in adolescence will likely change in early adulthood, mid-life, etc., depending on so many factors that to get hung up on a "label" is ultimately inhibiting, regardless of how safe it may feel at the time.<BR/><BR/>I would no more demand and even worse, legislate, the validity of two people joining their lives in terms of the gender of the participants, than I would codify career choice, religious choice, or the traditional marriage vows of "till death do us part". In that sense, at least, it is indeed a matter of civil rights for me. It boils down to equal rights under the law, The Consitution, and that document was founded partly on a lie but with the election of Obama it has indeed taken a big step towards becoming Truth in totality.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-13267215975047736162008-11-07T19:10:00.001-06:002008-11-07T19:10:00.001-06:00Well, clearly, you know I'm a few steps away from ...Well, clearly, you know I'm a few steps away from saying "anything goes."<BR/><BR/>And as a member of the United Church of Christ, I'm all for gay marriages. I think its hypocritical for us to holler about equal rights for all, but then make stipulations. I mean, civil unions are not the same as marriages--if the name was the only different then okay.<BR/><BR/>I think it's a hawt mess if for no other reason than the fact that we can't legislate love. GOPers and Conservatives always are interesting when it comes to laws concerning sex. They holler less government, but when it comes to issues of the womans uterus and homosexuality they're ready to pull out a list of laws that need to be passed.<BR/><BR/>I'm interested to hear what you have to say about Arkansas ruling that gay couples can't adopt. <BR/><BR/>It seems to me that, yet again, those of a conservative mindset, be it socially or theologically, that they are quite selective about preserving life on this side of the birth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-7158499116732771952008-11-07T19:10:00.000-06:002008-11-07T19:10:00.000-06:00I'm weighing in late. I do believe in the genetic...I'm weighing in late. I do believe in the genetic pre-disposition towards homesexuality. I also understand that people have these ingrained genetic directectives - which combined with life experience - generate an certain predictable outcome...homosexuality. Some people are able to work through their issues and “pass” into a heterosexual lifestyle. Others, won’t, will not, nor should they be forced to be.<BR/><BR/>I have to say, as someone who used to be a proud Black lesbian mother in a multi-racial, multi-gender family, I am vastly disappointed by this turn of events. And while I will not lay the blame soley on the doorstep of the Black community, I will challenge them to remember what the old days were like. (Anyone need a moving fictional account, please re-read The Women Of Brewster Place.) Used to be it was so bad back then that “any other” could find some solace - turning of heads, feigned ignorance - in our community. <BR/><BR/>Then, we all got to talking about rights. Then rights started becoming a reality. And it became this pre-school farce of “Me first!” Or worse, “My oppression is worse than yours is.” The fact of the matter is that our oppressions intersect. And instead of finding our common ground - we flock like lemmings into the devisive twaddle we were trained by our oppressors to do.<BR/><BR/>I’m a lot different than the woman I was years ago. My blog reads like the happy, heterosexual, home educating housewife. In my own soul, I was able to embrace the fact that love and compatibility are precious. I came to understand that no matter the package - the quality of the soul is the most important thing in forging a relationship. I got lucky that the soul I found later in life just happened to be inside of a Black man’s body. But, I will never forget that there are other women and men making families, loving, caring and building a life together who have made the exact same choice that I have. And this choice is accepting that we must seize the opportunity to embrace the most compatible, loving, caring soul regardless of the form it takes in this lifetime.<BR/><BR/>Why should anyone care? Don’t we want stability? Don’t we want productive, committed, caring community members? LondonDiva summed it up pretty nicely. There are far worse challenges than love, concern and caring.Christina Springerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06344959813985960573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-42111215349581918902008-11-07T17:01:00.000-06:002008-11-07T17:01:00.000-06:00When someone from the Christian community can show...When someone from the Christian community can show me how gays getting married will have direct impact on my life, maybe I'll sit up and pay attention.<BR/><BR/>I've already heard the "their taking good men/women available" bullshyt, and it doesn't wash for me because even if they deny their sexuality and sexual attraction, and marry a heterosexual, sooner or later, their true nature is going to surface and cause problems in the marriage, which leads to separation, divorce and becoming another statistic.The Christian Progressive Liberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04445662404937684518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-28500520914436000202008-11-07T16:53:00.000-06:002008-11-07T16:53:00.000-06:00Good post, and matches my sentiments about the bla...Good post, and matches my sentiments about the black/gay issue.<BR/><BR/>Why we refuse to discuss what's in front of us is a major reason why our communities are the most hurt and the most in denial.<BR/><BR/>We have to keep attempting these discussions, even if the old soldiers in the church don't want to hear it.The Christian Progressive Liberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04445662404937684518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-612615079345264852008-11-07T15:51:00.000-06:002008-11-07T15:51:00.000-06:00Big Man, your comment on the genetic thing being a...Big Man, your comment on the genetic thing being a can of worms is right on target. With the mapping of the human genome, I've seen more people getting off the "I can't control who I am" thing b/c they realize IF a genetic link is found, the very real risk is that mainstream folks will, by and large, define it as deviant from the norm and look for ways to prevent their kids from having that gene (or that set of genes).<BR/><BR/>Not a pretty picture. Eugenics isn't my cup 'o tea.<BR/><BR/>And again, as you've pointed out, neither the sexual orientation nor gay marriage poses any real threat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-73461824261289585072008-11-07T15:31:00.000-06:002008-11-07T15:31:00.000-06:00Fair enough, gentlemen. I would refrain from sayi...Fair enough, gentlemen. I would refrain from saying that homosexuality can be "overcome", though. I think you will find that people will not take the rest of your argument very seriously after they hear that :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-76753930628651035462008-11-07T15:27:00.000-06:002008-11-07T15:27:00.000-06:00DeacActually, using the genetic argument opens up ...Deac<BR/><BR/>Actually, using the genetic argument opens up a can of worms about whether homosexuality is deviance from the norm.<BR/><BR/>After all, all animals who are "normal" are hardwired to reproduce. It's the main function of sex. So, since homosexuality is at odds with that "natural" urge, what does that make it?<BR/><BR/>See, this discussion has so many holes in it. That's why my position is not based on whether or not homosexuality is normal or right. It's about what's wrong with denying people rights because they choose to live their lives differently from me in a way that in no way affects me.<BR/><BR/>That's the thing. Gay people getting married has no impact whatsoever on my life. It really doesn't. Two adults who want to get married is none of my business. NObody is being abused, nobody is being hurt. <BR/><BR/>Are we going to outlaw fornication, divorce, lying? This whole issue is some bullshit, but it had nothing to do with whether homosexuality is a choice. That is a stupid argument trying to advance a much more aggressive point-of-view that is always going to be met with resistance by individuals who believe in a literal interpetation of certain scripture.<BR/><BR/>That is not going to solve the problem.Big Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02510881583909431416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-48887485311054041762008-11-07T15:23:00.000-06:002008-11-07T15:23:00.000-06:00DarthRead my comment again.All gay people are not ...Darth<BR/><BR/>Read my comment again.<BR/><BR/>All gay people are not the same. Just like all black people. Some poeple have been attracted to the same sex since childhood, others have not.<BR/><BR/>Why do you insist on making this a discussion about whether homosexuality is a choice, when I have already said that has nothing to do with my decision to support gay marriage?<BR/><BR/>Sure, some people base their decision on that, but not me. I think gay marriage should be legal because I do not see it as a religious situation. I do not believe Christian beliefs should be forced on people and that's what happens when you make laws solely based on Christian beliefs. That's the crux of my support.Big Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02510881583909431416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-75328445082900915142008-11-07T14:21:00.000-06:002008-11-07T14:21:00.000-06:00Darth, lots of things are fundamental and shaped b...Darth, lots of things are fundamental and shaped by our upbringing and whom we admire and hang around when we're young.<BR/><BR/>Sex is one of them. How much we share. What kind of political leaning we will develop. What kind of person (exclusive of sex) that we will be attracted to. All of these things (and more) are shaped by our life experiences, and we have control over them, but at varying levels.<BR/><BR/>I'm not saying (nor is Big Man) that being gay is some easily changed behavior or that it is deviant from the norm. What I am saying is that it is not necessarily "hard wired."<BR/><BR/>I don't want to get into a back and forth on this. But saying it might have elements of choice in it is an acceptance of the role of environment and personal choices in life...it's not all written into our brains and it's not all genetic.<BR/><BR/>That's all I'm saying. And that's what I will continue to say unless and until they find a "gay gene."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-14946519253280962162008-11-07T13:21:00.000-06:002008-11-07T13:21:00.000-06:00I don't think you fellas understand how astonishin...I don't think you fellas understand how astonishing what you are saying is. It's like saying that your attraction to the opposite sex is a choice.<BR/><BR/>Gays insist they knew they were gay when they were as young as 6 years old. And of course at that age, it's not about sex. It's emotional. How comfortable you are around either sex, on an intimate level.<BR/><BR/>Think about it. Are you capable of having romantic feelings of tenderness and caring for members of your sex? I am not. And I am repulsed by their physique as well. Gays have the opposite reaction. Sexually, they are simply incapable of being aroused by a member of the opposite sex (if they're not bi-sexual.)<BR/><BR/>In my view, it is simply mother nature's evolutionary response to keeping the population at a reasonable level.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-85660366657330327372008-11-07T13:14:00.000-06:002008-11-07T13:14:00.000-06:00Big Man,Black folks didn't "do this." That's a cop...Big Man,<BR/><BR/>Black folks didn't "do this." That's a cop out on the part of those angry about the outcome. The religious of all creeds and colors are the ones who struck this down. By and large people who like god don't like gay, and if we, as a society, want equal marital rights (and while we are at it, if we don't want creationism taught in our schools and we don't want sara palin as our next president) our next move as rational americans is to promote a faith tempered by reason (or better yet, no faith). It is my feeling that this is the next big fight in this country for moving out of the past and into a brighter and more egalitarian future.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14976204679523622060noreply@blogger.com