tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post4377757048499426999..comments2023-10-31T06:20:45.622-05:00Comments on Raving Black Lunatic: Silence is AmericanBig Manhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02510881583909431416noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-44902268369449856452008-09-21T19:31:00.000-05:002008-09-21T19:31:00.000-05:00Big Man, The discussion didn't last long. The guy ...Big Man, <BR/>The discussion didn't last long. The guy who started the thread tried to attack me for "being a typical liberal tard and giving a pass," but a couple of other posters called him out before I got a chance to respond. They pointed out that I didn't "give a pass," but pointed out the absurdity of the "patriotism defense" when the country is faced with so many real problems. In general, that particular poster doesn't respond to me much, because I've embarassed him on more than one occasion. <BR/><BR/>By the way, if you ever want to really see what mentality Obama is up against, visit tidesports.com, then forums, then pick the one called Election 2008.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-35401590761968064522008-09-19T19:21:00.000-05:002008-09-19T19:21:00.000-05:00good sh!t allenp, this is your boy BETCATS from SL...good sh!t allenp, this is your boy BETCATS from SLAM.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-25311825203246582672008-09-19T17:04:00.000-05:002008-09-19T17:04:00.000-05:00Darth, that was an entertaining story....Maybe one...Darth, that was an entertaining story....Maybe one day I'll talk about my experiences on the blog.Big Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02510881583909431416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-10713634473967375672008-09-19T15:32:00.000-05:002008-09-19T15:32:00.000-05:00Big Man, would you mind detailing the incidents wh...Big Man, would you mind detailing the incidents where you were assaulted by said racial slur? I don't mean any disrespect or to cause you hurt by asking you to recount or anything, and am certainly not questioning it or anything, I'm just morbidly curious because I have never seen such a thing except in movie adaptations of books such as "To Kill a Mockingbird."<BR/><BR/>I have never been called honkey or cracker but I would laugh if I were, it'd be funny, though don't worry I'm not comparing being called a ngg to honkey, one is a pebble the other a mountain. I have French roots and have been called frog and that makes me laugh too.<BR/><BR/>Oh, check this out though, you might get a kick out of this: my first roommate in college (first year you know, completely random, I didn't know anybody there)-- he was from East St Louis (this is in Illinois) and he used to call _me_ the n word from time to time heh (he was black.) Like "hold up ngg!" and stuff like that, and in fact his whole posse did too. I was actually kind of frightened of them to tell you the truth. But not because they were black, more their menacing and negative demeanor. They had the worst attitude you could imagine. Here you had these half dozen guys, all on full ride scholarships, and they just sat around drinking 40oz Budweisers and cognac, listening to Tupac and smoking weed. All were kicked out after the first year, very sad. I was very careful around them though, and I even got my roommate (who was nice to me when his friends weren't around) to come to a "keg party" with me one night (with one of his other friends) which he kept calling a "white party" haha. Ah, those wild and crazy days. Oh, and heh, they were at "war" with the "Chicago nggs" for some reason, all the "East Saint" folks had it in for the Chicago folks for some reason, they got into fights and everything, with injuries requiring stitches! Don't worry, my view of black people wasn't affected by this experience in the least because as a kid I watched the Cosby Show and stuff, plus on campus there were a lot of black upperclassmen who were not thugish or nuthin', I just got "lucky" with my roommate draw :) I did move the first chance I got of course, at the end of the semester. Fortunately I did a lot of drinking and all the other things first semester freshmen do so it went by fairly quickly :)<BR/><BR/>Anyway. Sorry to ramble :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-56294471880511661262008-09-19T13:54:00.000-05:002008-09-19T13:54:00.000-05:00The outrage, from me, and many others in the black...The outrage, from me, and many others in the black community (rob) is that we're villified for speaking.<BR/><BR/>Al Sharpton had an intro into his program that had him saying "If you say something against Jews, it's a hate crime; against gays, hate crime; against women, hate crime; against blacks, free speech." I mean, damn, let the man speak and be free to speak.<BR/><BR/>No one can deny one's experience, I don't want to deny the white privileged experience anymore than I want a white privileged experience to deny my black male experience for the sake of "making something racial" which is still frickin' coded language for saying "you're really not submitting to westernized and Euro-centric thought as to how it should be done."<BR/><BR/>I mean it's all in the Morning-News' slant. They say he "disrespected" the national anthem as opposed to just saying "refuses to stand for National Anthem." And since we're already there, the national anthem is set to a friggin' drinking game tune from Ye Olde country. Secondly the stanza most jingoistic fools of this country know sings about the effin' flag. I mean, if we want some lyrics that inspire patriotism let's sing the fourth verse for crying out loud.<BR/><BR/>When white folk are a member of the 2% of black males that graduated from Chicago Public Schools that go on to finish a bachelor's degree, then I'ma do what all the other white folk are telling Josh Howard:<BR/><BR/>"SHUT THE HELL UP!"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-62910085457883211252008-09-19T13:39:00.000-05:002008-09-19T13:39:00.000-05:00make sure you let me know what happened after that...make sure you let me know what happened after that Rob.Big Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02510881583909431416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-39939403088348770942008-09-19T12:23:00.000-05:002008-09-19T12:23:00.000-05:00Over on the Tidesports forum, the usual collection...Over on the Tidesports forum, the usual collection of outraged Americans were spitting venom about this, and someone decided to challenge a "representative of the Black community" to defend what Howard said. This was my response:<BR/><BR/>Apparently the "Black community" needs to respond. I am not the Black community, if there is such a homogenous entity, but it seems I'm the closest thing to it on this board. <BR/><BR/>1. Josh Howard doesn't speak for all black people any more than he speaks for all Americans. In fact, he doesn't speak for all anything; he did what he did because he (third person singular) chose to do so.<BR/><BR/>2. I just walked outside, looked around, and I am now convinced that this is the United States of America, where the very first of our Constitutional Bill of Rights is "freedom of speech." It says nothing about anyone else having to like or agree with what is being said.<BR/><BR/>3. If you're waiting on the aforementioned "Black community" to express its collective outrage, take a seat...could be a while. You see, while you're foaming at the mouth because some multi-millionaire basketball player is clowning around for YouTube, we're concerned with the bailout of AIG, the collapse of Lehman Brothers, rising unemployment, the most important presidential election in any of our lifetimes, wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, $4.00+ gas prices, disenfranchisement efforts in Michigan and Ohio, capital losses, ARMs, failing schools and school systems losing accreditation, coastal devastation, and a host of other problems facing these United States of America.<BR/><BR/>So you just keep on being distraught and disconcerted by Josh Howard's antics-- let me know how that works out for you, okay?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-37941184840682706512008-09-19T11:37:00.000-05:002008-09-19T11:37:00.000-05:00DarthI have been called a nigger several times. An...Darth<BR/><BR/>I have been called a nigger several times. <BR/><BR/>And, I understand that sugar is a good way to get people to listen. However, sometimes I might not feel like doing that, and it's ridiculous that people think that if you don't hit them with kindness first, they should just ignore the message.<BR/><BR/>Also, I've found that many of the people who want credit for progress don't give other poeple credit for their progress.Big Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02510881583909431416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-62201895409663016832008-09-19T11:33:00.000-05:002008-09-19T11:33:00.000-05:00I didn't like what he said (surprise!) but I'm not...I didn't like what he said (surprise!) but I'm not going to set a threshold for you. All I can say is please have the courtesy to recognize how far we've come, in spite of how far we have to go, while you make such remarks, just as an olive branch to white folks so we don't feel like you hate our guts or something and think we're out to get you. We (will) have a black president for goodness sake, give us a little credit! :) I'm not saying you have no reason for grievance, not at all, but it'd be nice if you disarmed us a bit with some sugar first :)<BR/><BR/>Like in meetings at work I always start my criticisms of stuff by saying what I liked about it and how I appreciate the work and thought that went into it, before I launch my thoughts about what's wrong with it. Knowwutimsayin?<BR/><BR/>Regarding free speech in general, I agree. The thing is though, I think free speech means you can say what you want and it won't land you in jail. It doesn't mean there aren't consequences though. Like if I go around maligning my employer I will be fired, as I should be, and I can't claim my free speech rights were violated (or at least I shouldn't be allowed to.)<BR/><BR/>My more liberal friends piss me off when they bitch and whine about people on the right airing their asinine views about blacks, gays, and jews or what not, they want these people silenced by the law. Nuts, while people on the left can whine about Israel and conspiracies and stuff and get protection. Double standard.<BR/><BR/>Have you really been called a ngg? Are you serious? That's astonishing to me. Sorry to hear that, my American brother!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6803135128442396638.post-68249595743355298362008-09-19T10:46:00.000-05:002008-09-19T10:46:00.000-05:00i get whatv he is trying to sayanywho have good we...i get whatv he is trying to say<BR/>anywho have good weekend jonesAll-Mi-T [Thought Crime] Rawdawgbuffalohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08843040863123899426noreply@blogger.com